Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: going to korea in 3 weeks!!
안녕하새요!!
저는 줄리입니다 - - haha i don't know if i'm saying that right
I'm Julie - I'm in college and going to study in Korea this summer. I leave in 18 days 21 hrs and 38 minutes! (not excited or anything ^^) I will be at Yonsei University in Seoul for about 2 months... so I've been teaching myself a little of the 하국어 and up until a week ago I was able to get help from some korean friends - - but now they are back in Korea so I am on my own and definitely need some help!! and practice. I would love to talk to anyone who could give me cultural tips too so.. if you would like to chat, find me on msn: jello9187@hotmail.com. thanks - - 감사합니다
Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: going to korea in 3 weeks!!
gigajoules wrote:
안녕하새요!!
저는 줄리입니다 - - haha i don't know if i'm saying that right
I'm Julie - I'm in college and going to study in Korea this summer. I leave in 18 days 21 hrs and 38 minutes! (not excited or anything ^^) I will be at Yonsei University in Seoul for about 2 months... so I've been teaching myself a little of the 하국어 and up until a week ago I was able to get help from some korean friends - - but now they are back in Korea so I am on my own and definitely need some help!! and practice. I would love to talk to anyone who could give me cultural tips too so.. if you would like to chat, find me on msn: jello9187@hotmail.com. thanks - - 감사합니다
-줄리
Hi, 줄리!
Welcome.
저는 핸 리입니다
I live in the USA and Korean is my first language.
I am more than happy to help you learn Korean.
It seems like you got things all together.
You can type Korean and probably know all 24 consonants and 10 vowels, ready to go.
If you have fished learning all the letters and each sound, next thing to learn is how to put words in order.
Then, you can read with the help from the dictionary.
Here are many good people willing to help you.
So, feel free asking questions.
Even during and after your stating in Korean, alone with computer, you still can learn more here at Learn-Korean site.
yonsei is a good choice (if you were able to choose that is). i heard a lot of good things about the place. a group of students who went before i returned back to korea went to yonsei. my group was sent to seogang (sogang) last year and it was a great experience. some of the things that the teachers had us to did kind of suck, though. we had this one teacher who would send us out to do 조사들 (surveys) out on the street for her period of teaching. usually we had to ask passers-by their opinions about current events such as the reunification, polution, and men and women changing roles in the workforce. koreans are very busy and it was hard at first to get someone to stop and answer our questions. and me being a large muscular black guy didn't help much either. luckily, my grammatical skills and fluency are nearly flawless so once that convinced them that i just may know more than the basics of the language, they felt more at ease and sat down to respond to my census.
also, the teachers in korea are definately a lot more different than my instructors back in the states. i would never be able to party and interact with my instructors in the U.S. the way i did in korea. do not go over there assuming that most people over there in seoul speak english because they do not. i'm not saying that they don't know how, but i did another census in 2004 (when i didn't speak much korean) and in 2007 (when i could speak about almost any issue) and most koreans are afraid to speak english even though they were taught how to. it is like a beginner student who is learning the language but never used it on a native speaker outside of their comfort zone. not a teacher, not a friend, but a complete stranger. i was afraid to speak outside of the classroom when i first started (mainly because i didn't want to lose face and sound like a moron). but i practiced my fluency and grammar like crazy; then i focused more on vocabulary. that way, every new word i learned, i could easily put it in a sentence. and if i forgot the word, i new enough small words to articulantly describe what i was talking about, hence, having the person i was talking to tell me the word that i was trying to say.
education is an astronomical deal over there so don't sleep in class, try not to revert to english if you really do not have to (try learning descriptive words instead), if you mess up don't instictly switch back to english and say "crap", "damn", and other things like we normally say; do it in korean..........not the swear words, though instead of "um........" or "uhhh....." say "글쎄......."
if you are a guy, try and stay away from the pharmacies, double barber pole places on every block (they are happy ending massage parlors), and protests. have fun on your trip and take full advantage of this opportunity. study hard so that you don't sound like a complete tourist over there
thank you for the info!
How long were you learning Korean before you went to Korea? I have only been teaching myself for a few months... so I'm afraid that it will benefit me very little when I go over there and I doubt that I will be able to follow a conversation by the time I leave. Since I am not really following a course book (I basically make up my own lessons) it is difficult to find structure and know where to begin and what to study first. I will be taking a Korean language course while I am over there... but as prep, what would you suggest making sure I'm familiar with before i go?
and im not a guy, so im not planning on going to places like that anyway but any advice for a girl? any perspective helps!
thank you for the info!
How long were you learning Korean before you went to Korea? I have only been teaching myself for a few months... so I'm afraid that it will benefit me very little when I go over there and I doubt that I will be able to follow a conversation by the time I leave. Since I am not really following a course book (I basically make up my own lessons) it is difficult to find structure and know where to begin and what to study first. I will be taking a Korean language course while I am over there... but as prep, what would you suggest making sure I'm familiar with before i go?
and im not a guy, so im not planning on going to places like that anyway but any advice for a girl? any perspective helps!
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and im나 는 not a guy 남 자 아 닙 니 다, so 그 래 서im나 는 not planning 계 획 하 지 안 아 요on going 가 는 뎨to places장 소 를 like that 그 런anyway어 쨌 든 but 그 러 나any advice충 고 (있 나 요) for a girl여 자 한 테? any어 떤 perspective 견 해 도 helps 도 움 ㅤㄷㅙㅂ 니 다![/quote]
I put the corresponding words in Korean next to words in English.
I could not exactly word-for-word translate, because the way saying things in English is different from the way people say in Korean.
So, just for you to get the feel of how we Koreans say things, I did the best I know how.
Different people may use different words, depending on the social class or level of education, but basically the thought should be the same no matter how different expression is used.
Now, let me put the Korean words in the order of Korean.
Remember; in Korean the verb comes last in a sentence, having tense, mood, degree, or question all in one word with various suffixes.
So, you can figure the word order for yourself.
니가 한국에 가기전에 얼마나 오래 한국말을 배웠어요?
나는 스스로(혼자) 겨우 몄달 배웠어요
그래서 (나는 내가 거기에 갈때까지) 그겄이 내게 조금밖에 유익 할거라 (없을거라) 걱정해요
나는 (내가 떠날 그때쯤 대화를 따라갈수 있을지) 의문되요
내가 실제로 책대로 안따르기 때문이지요 (나는 기본적으로 내식으로 만들어 해요)
구조를 찼는 겄과 어디서 시작할지와 무었을 먼저 배울지를 알기 어려워요
나 는 (내가 거기 있는동안에) 한국어 과정을 수강할겁니다
그러나 준비한다면, 내가 가기 전에 확실히 내가 익숙하도록 하기위해 무었을 님은 추천 하시겠읍니까?
나는 남자가 아닙니다, 그래서 나는 그런 장소를 가는겄 어쨌든 계획하지 안아요
그러나 여자한테 충고 (있 나 요?)
어떤 견해도 도움 ㅤㄷㅙㅂ니다
If you want a good advice, please don't go to a bar or club, when you are asked to go.
Korean college boys and girls love to go there and have fun, usually 'drinking' to enhance the fun of socializing.
As a prep, make sure you will not to hang around there with such good and funny friends who have such a high goal of being high by drinking.
I don't know about your religious back ground, but I think it is goo to have good laws and rules to even govern yourself.
Without the good law, anything goes, ending in lawlessness that promises destruction.
Thanks for the advice...
I also had another question... what are some differences between the expectations of how women and men are supposed to speak/ act in Korea that I should be aware of? Like, it is improper for women to....?
Thanks for the advice...
I also had another question... what are some differences between the expectations of how women and men are supposed to speak/ act in Korea that I should be aware of? Like, it is improper for women to....?
Well, I don't know about other Koreans, but, as for me, I would like to suggest you not to be too kind to men, because they may take your kindness into too personal.
Men are crazy about the kind woman.
I have a college bound daughter myself and worry about her doing improper things against my value.
I believe you have a father who worry about that, too.
So, I am talking just like your father would do.
Seriously, you don't speak Korean too good and probably not properly worded, so that you don't have to worry about the improper things to speak.
I don't think they expect much from you.
To older man or woman, you just have to make sure to use '요' in the end of the verb, showing respect, like 하 세 요, 가 세 요, 오 세 요, 드 세 요.
Other than that, just being you and doing properly as a woman would do will be good.
When you get there, your agency will tell you what to do or not do.
You can also learn from people who are already there before you.
Korean is just like any other people- there are good and bad people.
You just have to know who is who.
if you are a serious learner, i would go with learning grammar. that way, you will be able to put any new vocabulary you learn into a well-formed sentence. grammar is the key (for everything).
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instead of "um........" or "uhhh....." say "글쎄......."
but any advice for a girl? any perspective helps!