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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: ¿îµ¿ÀÌ Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

±×·¸°Ô ¸¹Àº »ç¶÷µéÀÌ ÀÖ¾ú½À´Ï±î..
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

¿©·¯ºÐ ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? ¿À·£¸¸ÀÌ¿¡¿ä. Á¶±ë°¡ Á¦°¡ ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Á¶±ëÀº ÁÁÀº ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. À̹ø ÁÖ¸»¿¡ ¹» Çß¾î¿ä? ¿ì¸®´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»ê¿¡ °¬´Ù ¿Ô¾î¿ä. ¿ì¸®°¡ ¼ÒÁÖ¸¦ ¸¶¼Ì¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀÌ ÇÊÀ½½ÄÀ» ÁÁ¾ÆÇß¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀÌ Á¤¸» Àç¹ÌÀÖ¾ú¾î¿ä. ¿©±â ¹Ù±â¿À½Ã¿¡´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»êÀÌ °¡Àå ³ôÀº »êÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ Á¤¸» Ãß¿ö¿ä.

¼±»ý´Ô, ¹«½¼ °ÍÀÌ ¸ÂÀºÁö ¼þ±ÝÇմϱî?
±×¸¸ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä ÀÔ´Ï±î ¾Æ´Ï¸é ±×¸¸ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä ÀԴϱî?

Àú³­ Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»óÈ÷۱⠰øºÎÇØ¾ß¸¸ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Ʋ¸° ºÎºÐÀÌ ÀÖÀ¸¸é ¼öÁ¤ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreanlearner wrote:
¿©·¯ºÐ ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? ¿À·£¸¸ÀÌ¿¡¿ä. Á¶±ë°¡ Á¦°¡ ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Á¶±ëÀº ÁÁÀº ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. À̹ø ÁÖ¸»¿¡ ¹» Çß¾î¿ä? ¿ì¸®´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»ê¿¡ °¬´Ù ¿Ô¾î¿ä. ¿ì¸®°¡ ¼ÒÁÖ¸¦ ¸¶¼Ì¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀÌ ÇÊÀ½½ÄÀ» ÁÁ¾ÆÇß¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀÌ Á¤¸» Àç¹ÌÀÖ¾ú¾î¿ä. ¿©±â ¹Ù±â¿À½Ã¿¡´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»êÀÌ °¡Àå ³ôÀº »êÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ Á¤¸» Ãß¿ö¿ä.

Arrow ¿©·¯ºÐ ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? ¿À·£¸¸ÀÌ¿¡¿ä. Á¶±ëÀÌ Á¦°¡ °¡Àå ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. (¿îµ¿ÀÌ¿¡¿ä.) Á¶±ëÀº ÁÁÀº ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù.(¿îµ¿ÀÌ¿¡¿ä.) À̹ø ÁÖ¸»¿¡ ¹» Çß¾î¿ä? ¿ì¸®´Â(³ª´Â) »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»ê¿¡ °¬´Ù ¿Ô¾î¿ä. ¿ì¸®´Â ¼ÒÁÖ¸¦ ¸¶¼Ì¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀº ÇÊÀ½½Ä(Çʸ®ÇÉ À½½Ä?)À» ÁÁ¾ÆÇß¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀº Á¤¸» Àç¹ÌÀÖ¾ú¾î¿ä. ¿©±â ¹Ù±â¿À½Ã¿¡´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»êÀÌ °¡Àå ³ôÀº »êÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ Á¤¸» Ãß¿ö¿ä.

¼±»ý´Ô, ¹«½¼ °ÍÀÌ ¸ÂÀºÁö ¼þ±ÝÇմϱî?
Arrow ¾î¶² °ÍÀÌ ¸Â´ÂÁö ±Ã±ÝÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
±×¸¸ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä ÀÔ´Ï±î ¾Æ´Ï¸é ±×¸¸ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä ÀԴϱî?
Arrow ±×¸¸ÇØÁÖ¼¼¿ä ; please stop it
±×¸¸ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä : please stop giving it (to me.)

Àú³­ Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»óÈ÷۱⠰øºÎÇØ¾ß¸¸ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Ʋ¸° ºÎºÐÀÌ ÀÖÀ¸¸é ¼öÁ¤ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
Arrow Àú´Â Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»ó½Ã۱â À§ÇØ °øºÎÇØ¾ß¸¸ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Á¶±ë°¡ Á¦°¡ ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. -> Á¶±ë'ÀÌ' Á¦°¡ ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿'ÀÔ'´Ï´Ù.

Á¶±ëÀº ÁÁÀº ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. À̹ø ÁÖ¸»¿¡ ¹»(or ¹¹) Çß¾î¿ä? ¿ì¸®´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»ê¿¡ °¬´Ù ¿Ô¾î¿ä. ¿ì¸®°¡(´Â is better.) ¼ÒÁÖ¸¦ ¸¶¼Ì¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀÌ('´Â' is better) ÇÊÀ½½ÄÀ» ÁÁ¾ÆÇß¾î¿ä. Á¦ Çѱ¹Ä£±¸µéÀÌ Á¤¸» Àç¹ÌÀÖ¾ú¾î¿ä. ¿©±â ¹Ù±â¿À½Ã¿¡´Â »êÅÍÅ͸¶½º»êÀÌ °¡Àå ³ôÀº »êÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ Á¤¸» Ãß¿ö¿ä.

¼±»ý´Ô, ¹«½¼ °ÍÀÌ ¸ÂÀºÁö ¼þ±ÝÇմϱî?
¼±»ý´Ô has two meanings. one is 'teacher', and the other is 'you' in a polite and formal way. but second meaning is not often used now. it sounds like a old fashion. in this case, it sounds more like second meaning, even if you meant 'teacher.'
¹«¾ùÀÌ ¸Â´ÂÁö ±Ã±ÝÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
i actually dont understand what you meant. i just guessed you meant 'i wonder which is correct.'

±×¸¸ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä ÀÔ´Ï±î ¾Æ´Ï¸é ±×¸¸ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä ÀԴϱî?
'±×¸¸ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä' means 'please stop it.' but in fact, it doesn't sounds like korean. what i mean is it is korean but not korean expression. (somehow, it sounds like a japanese expression.) you can use '±×¸¸ÇØ¿ä' instead of it.
'±×¸¸ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä' means 'stop giving me' well.. it is not common, either. it might be used for the answer of 'say when.'

Àú³­ Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»óÈ÷۱⠰øºÎÇØ¾ß¸¸ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Ʋ¸° ºÎºÐÀÌ ÀÖÀ¸¸é ¼öÁ¤ÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
->Àú'´Â' Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»ó'½Ã'۱â À§ÇØ °øºÎÇØ¾ß(¸¸) ÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yin-yeon¾¾ ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? ¸Â¾Æ¿ä, Á¶±ëÀÌ Á¦°¡ ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. Àú´Â Á¤¸» ¹Ùº¸¾ß. ¶Ç! Àú'´Â' Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»ó'½Ã'۱â À§ÇØ °øºÎÇØ¾ß(¸¸) ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Á¤¸» Á˼ÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

can I say then " ¾î´À °ÍÀÌ ¸Â¾Æ¿ä?

±×·±µ¥, Çѱ¹»ç¶÷ÀÌ¿¡¿ä?

i still have to find out ¼±»ý´Ô. you==>´ç½Å, ³Í,´ì. also in arirangtv they use ¼±»ý´Ô as teacher, sir, mr but never as "you"

¸¹ÀÌ µµ¿Í ÁÖ¼¼¿ä °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yin-yeon¾¾ ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? ¸Â¾Æ¿ä, Á¶±ëÀÌ Á¦°¡ ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. Àú´Â Á¤¸» ¹Ùº¸¾ß. ¶Ç! Àú'´Â' Çѱ¹¾î ½Ç·ÂÀ» Çâ»ó'½Ã'۱â À§ÇØ °øºÎÇØ¾ß(¸¸) ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Á¤¸» Á˼ÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

can I say then " ¾î´À °ÍÀÌ ¸Â¾Æ¿ä?

±×·±µ¥, Çѱ¹»ç¶÷ÀÌ¿¡¿ä?

i still have to find out ¼±»ý´Ô. you==>´ç½Å, ³Í,´ì. also in arirangtv they use ¼±»ý´Ô as teacher, sir, mr but never as "you"

¸¹ÀÌ µµ¿Í ÁÖ¼¼¿ä °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

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anytime. Smile

Yep. you can say '¾î´À°ÍÀÌ ¸Â¾Æ¿ä?' also you can say '¾î¶²°ÍÀÌ ¸Â¾Æ¿ä?' or '¾î¶²°Ô ¸Â¾Æ¿ä?'

also, you are right about ¼±»ý´Ô. it is used as teacher, sir, mr. but as i said to you, it's an old fashoin. so it is rarely used. you can use it, only when you think you should show admiration. dont use it to police officers or customers. when you use it, it means 'you deserve my admiration.'

´ç½Å has 2 meanings. one is 'you' just as you said. there are 2 uses in this meaning. when it is used as 'you' between a hudsband and a wife, it is acceptable. but if you use it as 'you' to others, it is not acceptable. many korean people think it is an insult. Sencond meaning of '´ç½Å' is 'he' or 'she' in a very polite way.

´ì is less rude than '´ç½Å' when it is used as 'you' but i personally dont like using it, coz it is still rude.

³Í is 'you' as a subject. ³Í is made up with '³Ê' and '´Â' so its basic form is '³Ê´Â', but we made it shorter, and use '³Í'. '³Ê' is used in an informal conversation. but do not use it when you talk to older people than you or strangers. they might think it's an insult.


³×. Àú´Â ij³ª´Ù¼­ °øºÎÇϰí ÀÖ´Â Çѱ¹ÀÎÀÌ¿¹¿ä. ^^
Yep. i'm a korean studying in canada.

ÁÁ¾ÆÇÏ´Â ¿îµ¿Àº... °øºÎ........................

³ó´ãÀÓ ^^
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yin-yeon¾¾ ¾È³çÇϽʴϱî? ±× µ¿¾È º°°í ¾øÀ¸¼Ì¾î¿ä? Àú´Â Àß Áö³»¿ä. ÇÏÁö¸¸ À̹øÁÖ¿¡ Á¤¸» ¹Ùºü¿ä. Çѱ¹»ç¶÷ÀÌ¿¡¿ä? ¾ðÁ¦Âë ij³ª´Ù¿¡ °¬¾î¿ä? Á¤¸» ¿µ¾î¸»·Î Àß ÇϽó׿ä. yin-yeon¾¾ Çѱ¹¾î °¡¸£ÃÄ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä. °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

¾ðÁ¦³ª °Ç °­Çϱ⸦ º÷´Ï´Ù. ÁÁÀº ÇÏ·ç µÇ¼¼¿ä.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

¿ª½Ã űǵµ¸¦ °¡Àå ÁÁ¾ÆÇØ¿ä.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä, koreanlearner´Ô
´ç½ÅÀÇ Çѱ¹¾î¸¦ Á¤¸» ÁÁ¾Ð³ª´Ù..
´ç½ÅÀÌ ³»°Ô Çѱ¹¾î¸¦ °¡¸£Ä¥ ¼ö ÀÖ½À´Ï±î?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlene¾¾ ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä? ¿À·£¸¸ÀÌ¿¡¿ä. ±× µ¿¾È Àß ÀÖ¾ú¾î¿ä? ³­ Àß Áö³»¿ä ÇÏÁö¸¸ ±× µ¿¾È Á¤¸» ¹Ùºü¿ä. ¾Æ´Ñµ¥¿ä, ¾ÆÂïµµ ¸ø Çß¾î¿ä. ±×·±µ¥ charlene¾¾ ¾ðÁ¦ Çѱ¹¾î °øºÎ¸¦ ½ÃÀÛÇß¾î¿ä?

yin-yeon¾¾ ¾È³çÇϽʴϱî? ¾î´À °ÍÀÌ ¸Â¾Æ¿ä?
´ç½ÅÀÇ Çѱ¹¾î¸¦ Á¤¸» ÁÁ¾Ð³ª´Ù..
´ç½ÅÀÇ Çѱ¹¾î¸¦ Á¤¸» ÁÁ½À³ª´Ù..

¸¹ÀÌ µµ¿Í ÁÖ¼¼¿ä. °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.

charlene¾¾ ¿ì¸®´Â ¿­½ÉÈ÷ °øºÎÇϰھî¿ä.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ·Ð~!

well.. both have some small mistakes. =) it depends on what you meant by the sentence.

´ç½ÅÀÇ Çѱ¹¾î¸¦ Á¤¸» ÁÁ¾ÆÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
well.. this sounds a bit weird. but if you wanna emphasis 'Korean is your language" or if you like his way of using korean language, you can say that.
it simply means 'i like your korean language very much.'

´ç½ÅÀÇ Çѱ¹¾î´Â Á¤¸» ÁÁ½À´Ï´Ù.
it's also a bit obscure.. it sounds like 'your korean language is very good.'
so, i dont know which you focused on, 'Korean language is good.' or 'you are good at korean.'?

if you wanna say 'be good at', use 'ÀßÇÏ´Ù' instead of 'ÁÁ´Ù.'

anyway, you're improving. =)

I didnt see your post. =) i came to canada about 2 years ago. in these day, i'm busy to study. yesterday was so crazy. i spent too much time here, so i did a paper until 3 in the morning. T_T

so.. today, i gotta catch upon cleaning my stuffs.
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À߳׿ä. ³Ê¹« ºÎ·´´Ù. ±×·±µ¥, ¾ðÁ¦¿ä?
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